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-->2008-08-04T17:20:22+01:00</updated><id>http://weborganics.co.uk/articles/show/bootstrapping-haudio</id><link rel="alternate" href="http://weborganics.co.uk/articles/show/bootstrapping-haudio" type="text/html"/><title>Bootstrapping hAudio</title><category term="FOAF" scheme="http://weborganics.co.uk/taggings/" label="FOAF"/><category term="google" scheme="http://weborganics.co.uk/taggings/" label="google"/><category term="haudio" scheme="http://weborganics.co.uk/taggings/" label="haudio"/><category term="haudio-rss" scheme="http://weborganics.co.uk/taggings/" label="haudio-rss"/><category term="hFoaf" scheme="http://weborganics.co.uk/taggings/" label="hFoaf"/><category term="metaformats" scheme="http://weborganics.co.uk/taggings/" label="metaformats"/><category term="microformats" scheme="http://weborganics.co.uk/taggings/" label="microformats"/><category term="operator" scheme="http://weborganics.co.uk/taggings/" label="operator"/><category term="RDF" scheme="http://weborganics.co.uk/taggings/" label="RDF"/><category term="RDF-3T" scheme="http://weborganics.co.uk/taggings/" label="RDF-3T"/><category term="rdfa" scheme="http://weborganics.co.uk/taggings/" label="rdfa"/><category term="SEO" scheme="http://weborganics.co.uk/taggings/" label="SEO"/><category term="transformr" scheme="http://weborganics.co.uk/taggings/" label="transformr"/><category term="ubiquity" scheme="http://weborganics.co.uk/taggings/" label="ubiquity"/><entry><title>Bootstrapping hAudio</title><id>http://weborganics.co.uk/articles/show/bootstrapping-haudio</id><link rel="alternate" href="http://weborganics.co.uk/articles/show/bootstrapping-haudio" title="Bootstrapping hAudio" type="text/html"/><updated>2008-08-01T20:12:53+01:00</updated><content type="xhtml"><div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<p><a href="http://microformats.org/wiki/haudio" title="hAudio Proposal"><img src="http://weborganics.co.uk/images/haudio.png" alt="haudio"/></a></p>

<p>The hAudio Microformat can now be transformed to four different flavours, RSS1, RSS2, XSPF, and  RDF Music Ontology</p>
<p>The Newest Format is <a href="http://weborganics.co.uk/mo-haudio/" title="Mo hAudio">Mo hAudio</a> which is an attempt at extracting a basic <a href="http://wiki.musicontology.com/index.php/Here_is_a_basic_document_describing_an_Album_and_its_Tracks">Music Ontology</a>.  A demo is available at <a href="http://weborganics.co.uk/mo-haudio/" title="Mo hAudio">http://weborganics.co.uk/mo-haudio/</a> .  One of the questions you may ask is why all the different  formats ,  Well  the first answerer is its cool isn't it? And the second would be, proof that the contributors  of  hAudio got the common basic semantics  right.  I would also say that if you are going to publish music on your website, why not publish it in hAudio because It's easy to do...</p>

<pre>&lt;div class="haudio"&gt;
&lt;a rel="enclosure" class="fn" href="http://mywebsite.com/file/myfile.mp3" type="audio/mpeg"&gt;My Groovy Choon&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;</pre>

<p>... and  you get  the added benefits  of all the other formats too. There Is just one more transformation (available end of august) hAudio to M3U which will pretty much  make the job of bootstrapping hAudio to as many different formats as I can complete, If you think I left something out please let me know.</p>
</div></content><author><name>Martin</name></author><category term="haudio" scheme="http://weborganics.co.uk/taggings/" label="haudio"/><category term="microformats" scheme="http://weborganics.co.uk/taggings/" label="microformats"/><category term="RDF" scheme="http://weborganics.co.uk/taggings/" label="RDF"/></entry><entry><title>Matthias Pfefferle said</title><id>http://weborganics.co.uk/articles/show/bootstrapping-haudio#comment-2</id><link rel="alternate" href="http://weborganics.co.uk/articles/show/bootstrapping-haudio#comment-2" title="Permalink to this comment" type="text/html"/><updated>2008-08-03T01:20:32+01:00</updated><content type="xhtml"><div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><q cite="http://notizblog.org">Nice job, I am looking forward to try the hAudio to M3U transformation.</q></div></content><author><name>Matthias Pfefferle</name><uri>http://notizblog.org</uri></author></entry><entry><title>Martin said</title><id>http://weborganics.co.uk/articles/show/bootstrapping-haudio#comment-3</id><link rel="alternate" href="http://weborganics.co.uk/articles/show/bootstrapping-haudio#comment-3" title="Permalink to this comment" type="text/html"/><updated>2008-08-03T02:20:00+01:00</updated><content type="xhtml"><div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><q cite="http://weborganics.co.uk/">@Matthias Thanks for your support, the M3U format will be here soon will let you know when it is available for testing.</q></div></content><author><name>Martin</name><uri>http://weborganics.co.uk/</uri></author></entry><entry><title>Andy Mabbett said</title><id>http://weborganics.co.uk/articles/show/bootstrapping-haudio#comment-4</id><link rel="alternate" href="http://weborganics.co.uk/articles/show/bootstrapping-haudio#comment-4" title="Permalink to this comment" type="text/html"/><updated>2008-08-03T16:25:52+01:00</updated><content type="xhtml"><div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><q cite="http://pigsonthewing.org.uk">Good work; but the "issues" I raised back in January (http://microformats.org/wiki/haudio-issues) mostly remain unaddressed - for instance, rel="enclosure" is not suitable for streaming audio; and the duration property abuses the ABBR element as described at http://www.webstandards.org/2007/04/27/haccessibility/ and http://www.webstandards.org/2008/06/23/haccessibility-redux/

Sadly the microformats cabal do not seem to take the latter issue seriously.</q></div></content><author><name>Andy Mabbett</name><uri>http://pigsonthewing.org.uk</uri></author></entry><entry><title>Martin said</title><id>http://weborganics.co.uk/articles/show/bootstrapping-haudio#comment-6</id><link rel="alternate" href="http://weborganics.co.uk/articles/show/bootstrapping-haudio#comment-6" title="Permalink to this comment" type="text/html"/><updated>2008-08-04T17:20:22+01:00</updated><content type="xhtml"><div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><q cite="http://weborganics.co.uk/">@Andy Mabbett Hello Andy really good to hear from you,  rel="enclosure" I am inclined to agree with you in *some* instances for example it is unsuitable for audio that is streamed from a server such as real audio files and shoutcast streams, you and I were addressing this issue before your untimely break, so a class="stream" may be in order when the next round of talks finalizing hAudio begins, I will speak to Manu when he returns from his break to see if we can begin some time soon.
I think the abbr design issue is a problem area across all Microformats dont you think?, and I agree the hAudio duration element need addressing but I feel we will be unable to address this issue until the Comunity as a whole gets a grip of how bad for Microfomats the abbr design pattern is.
Anyway email me privately if you want to talkmore.</q></div></content><author><name>Martin</name><uri>http://weborganics.co.uk/</uri></author></entry>
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